Lazy Susan, the newly crowned champion of Drag Race Down Under Season 4, is no stranger to the spotlight. Known for her work on the Drag Race Down Under review show Kick Ons with Art Simone, she has won over drag fans with her signature humour and undeniable talent. But her path to victory wasn’t without its hurdles—filled with doubts, determination, and the perfect timing.
Sitting down with YOUR EX’s Oliver Hall, Lazy Susan opens up about her journey on the show, the evolution of her drag, and why she believes Season 4 finally broke the “Down Under curse.”
Battling Self-Doubt: Overcoming the Fear of Being ‘Blacklisted’
For Lazy Susan, landing a spot on Drag Race Down Under felt like a long shot—especially given her association with Kick Ons, a show that has playfully critiqued the franchise.
“I auditioned every year since Season 2 because Season 1 was invite-only. But after multiple rejections, I thought, ‘It must be my connection to Kick Ons. Surely, they’ve blacklisted me,’” she shares.
To her surprise, that wasn’t the case. “When I finally spoke to the producers, they told me, ‘We don’t care about that!’ They just didn’t think I was ready. And honestly, looking back at my drag then, I agree. I wasn’t fully cooked yet. Drag is an ever-evolving art form, and I got my shot at exactly the right time.”
Lazy credits her Season 4 placement as the key to her success. “There’s no way this outcome would’ve happened in any other year. But if I hadn’t gotten in, I probably would’ve given up auditioning… though, let’s be real—I’m full of it. I would’ve tried again,” she laughs.
Behind the Scenes: A Well-Oiled Machine
As someone who had spent years analysing Drag Race Down Under, Lazy Susan thought she had a solid grasp of what to expect. However, stepping onto the set as a contestant was a whole new experience.
“I’d heard all the horror stories from my drag sisters who were in earlier seasons when the production was still finding its feet,” she explains. “But by the time I got there, it was a well-oiled machine. The directors, editors, and sound crew knew exactly how to handle drag queens, our moods, and our costumes. Everything ran smoothly.”
Despite this, watching herself on screen hasn’t been easy. “I watched the season with live audiences, which is the best way to do it. But sitting down and rewatching it? Absolutely not! Seeing myself in the workroom, I’m just like, ‘Shut your mouth, you stupid cow!’ It’s unbearable!”

Breaking the ‘Down Under Curse’
Drag Race Down Under has had a mixed reception in past seasons, but Season 4 has been hailed as the franchise’s strongest yet—something Lazy Susan wholeheartedly agrees with.
“This season broke the Down Under curse, no doubt,” she says. “The casting was phenomenal—such a rich mix of personalities. The narrative was strong, and people really got to know us. Every elimination had the audience saying, ‘What? How is this queen going home already?’”
That said, Lazy insists previous seasons still had their standout moments, citing Mini Cooper lip-syncing in Heelys and Etcetera Etcetera’s scuba suit runway as some of her favourites. However, she believes Season 4’s cohesiveness is what made it the best.
“This season had the most satisfying story arc. It was the perfect balance of talent, drama, and heart.”
Michelle Visage at the Helm
While some fans were disappointed that RuPaul didn’t return for Season 4, Lazy Susan sees it differently.
“If Ru was there, I’d have been too nervous to function. I’d be a wreck, pissing myself every day!” she jokes.
Instead, Michelle Visage stepped in as the head judge, which for Lazy, was a full-circle moment. “Michelle judged me the very first time I competed in a drag competition years ago. To be judged by her again, now as a seasoned queen, felt beautifully poetic.”
Lazy also praises Michelle’s influence on drag culture. “She has been at the epicentre of drag since before it was mainstream—when there were no sponsorships, no magazine covers. She’s always been a fierce advocate for the community.”
She also acknowledges the historic nature of Michelle’s role: “She’s the first cis woman to be the main judge of a Drag Race season. It’s about time we recognise the contributions of women to drag—not just as inspirations, but as performers and supporters. Women have always been our biggest fans and advocates, and it’s great to see that acknowledged.”
What’s Next for Lazy Susan?
Lazy Susan has no plans to slow down.
“I’ll definitely be back for more Kick Ons if there’s a Season 5 of Down Under. The set is literally in my back shed!” she laughs. “It’s been amazing to grow that project alongside Art Simone and the team. It’s a fabulous contribution to the drag community.”
And what about touring? Lazy apologises to her Kiwi fans for not making it to New Zealand yet.
“We’d love to tour, but getting drag queens over there is ridiculously expensive. Keep marching in the streets, and maybe we’ll get there one day!”
She does hint at a potential appearance at Palmy Drag Fest, calling it a dream opportunity.
Until then, fans can catch her on her podcast “Death To Everyone”, co-hosted with Zelda Moon.
A Queen for the Ages
Lazy Susan’s Drag Race Down Under win is a testament to persistence, passion, and the evolving art of drag.
“Drag is at its best when it’s an adoration of women,” she says. “It’s about celebrating femininity, strength, and creativity. That’s what I aim to do every time I step on stage.”
With her signature wit, charisma, and undeniable talent, Lazy Susan has proven that sometimes, waiting for the right moment is the key to success.
👉 Follow her at @mslazysusan and mslazysusan.com.